Sunday, November 23, 2008

what direction is hate?

I received an email with a racist bent, what surprised me was how the people forwarding it were slipping in to old patterns of hate.
Please do not forward me your hate mongering.

a quick note about nations.
A nation is a form of self-defined cultural and social community.(Wikipedia) not a country.
Many countries are "nation states". ie Germany.
CANADA is a MULTI-NATION country.

If the Québécois, can be a nation within Canada, and have the official anthem changed to be part English and part French, then what is to prevent any other nation in Canada from doing the same. Canada has a large Cree nation and a large Hindi population (not yet an official nation), and we have opened up the floor to this discussion by not labelling separatists as treasonous.
In Quebec at the moment they are actively trying to disallow the vote to non French speaking citizens. (thats right California is not the only place human rights are going backward).
1)OBVIOUSLY a person dose not deserved to be fired for speaking ones mind in Canada. Anyone! Not even misguided racist hate mongering fools. (many of the people in this email qualify)
2)If Hindi's wish to petition the government to be recognized as a nation, thats there right. The same rights many died to defend.
3)Adding more official nations to a united Canada, makes the nation stronger as well as reducing any other nation in Canada's ability to act unilaterally.

the feeling in this email resonated with racism, please ask your self before you forward such, if its possible that what your feeling is a fear of loss of the Anglo-Saxon's dominate position. Or is it a genuine problem to be fixed?
Yes we need to petition to have this mans job reinstated, but lets do it with out becoming misguided racist hate mongering fools.


On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Lainie S wrote:
> This is the first time I have forwarded a racially specific complaint. but I
> DO agree--enough is enough.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: manof lamancha
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> what do you think?
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> I agree 1000%. I find it interesting and very aggravating that these people
> do everything they can to get to Canada and then spend the rest of their
> time trying to change Canada into their old country. If you don't like
> Canada the way it is GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
> Why did you come here to begin with. You want freedom of religion, freedom
> to speak in your native tongue, well so do I and I was born here. My family
> has served to protect the rights we enjoy, the same rights that you have
> come to Canada to take advantage of. What have you done to deserve the right
> to force your wants on me. You claim racism against you. If we were racist
> against you we would NOT have let you in to Canada. If you want a national
> anthem sung in your native tongue GO BACK TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME FROM AND
> SING THE ONE WRITTEN IN YOUR NATURAL TONGUE AND LEAVE OURS ALONE.
> One more thing.
> It is this kind of thing that really should show us true Canadians that
> maybe we should quit being so complacent and "nice " to everyone else in the
> world and start to stand up for our rights. Quit allowing others to
> constantly run over us like door mats and stand up for what we believe in.
> "I am Canadian" is more than just a beer add. Try being as patriotic about
> the rights that our soldiers died for as you are about your brand of beer,
> kind of vehicle you drive, or the coffee you drink and maybe we wont have to
> put up with this crap.
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> I AM CANADIAN
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> I agree with this piece totally! My grandfather died at Vimy; my uncle, an
> RCAF flight officer, died for his country, so that we could sing with pride,
> "OH CANADA". Did they sing China's national anthem in Hindi at the summer
> olympics. Don't think so! And, will this be allowed when Great Britain
> hosts the Olympics? Don't think so!
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> I know this has been around many many times so it just goes to show everyone
> we do all feel the same way.
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> Please read and tell me what you think!!!
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> You SHOULD be concerned.
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> Our National Anthem - at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics
> Please read and forward to as many Canadians you can think of – thank you
> WE ARE PROUD CANADIANS
>
> Bruce Allen is on the 2010 Vancouver Olympic Committee and new Canadians
> (specifically Hindi's/Indian's) want him fired for his recent comments
> outlined below:
> I am sorry, but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in
> Hindi - enough is enough.
> Nowhere or at no other time in our Nation's history, did they sing it in
> Italian, Japanese, Polish,
> Irish (Celtic), German, Portuguese, Greek, or any other language because
> of immigration.
> It was written in English, adapted into French, and should be sung word
> for word the way it was written.
>
> The news broadcasts even gave the Hindi version translation - which was
> not even close to our National Anthem. I am not the least bit sorry if
> this offends ANYONE, this is MY COUNTRY; My Grand Dad served in the
> military, other family members also served, as well as my wife & I served a
> combined total of 56 years between us. We made many sacrifices for our
> country and do not feel we should feel obligated to allow invited people
> we've welcomed with open arms to influence & change our society to better
> resemble the one they chose to leave to come here!!! - IF YOU AGREE ABOUT
> THIS GREAT COUNTRY, SPEAK UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
> -- please pass this along .
> I am not against immigration. In fact I believe we need more, my ancestors
> were immigrants -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; a
> place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the Rules AND
> LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and LONG
> LIVE CANADA!'
>
> It's time we all get behind Bruce Allen, and scrap this Political
> Correctness crap. His comments were anything but racist, however, there are
> far too many overly sensitive 'New Canadians' that are attempting to
> change everything we hold dear.
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> ARE you PART OF THE PROBLEM ??? Think about this: If you don't want to
> forward this for fear of offending someone, will we still be the Country
> of Choice and Still be CANADA if we continue to make the changes forced on
> us by the people from other countries who have come to live in CANADA
> because it is the Country of Choice??????
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> Think about it!
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> IMMIGRANTS, NOT CANADIAN'S, MUST ADAPT.
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> It's Time for CANADIANS to speak up.. If you agree ? Pass this along; if
> you don't agree?
> Delete it and reap what you sew because of your complacency!
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