what direction is hate?

I received an email with a racist bent, what surprised me was how the people forwarding it were slipping in to old patterns of hate.
Please do not forward me your hate mongering.

a quick note about nations.
A nation is a form of self-defined cultural and social community.(Wikipedia) not a country.
Many countries are "nation states". ie Germany.
CANADA is a MULTI-NATION country.

If the Québécois, can be a nation within Canada, and have the official anthem changed to be part English and part French, then what is to prevent any other nation in Canada from doing the same. Canada has a large Cree nation and a large Hindi population (not yet an official nation), and we have opened up the floor to this discussion by not labelling separatists as treasonous.
In Quebec at the moment they are actively trying to disallow the vote to non French speaking citizens. (thats right California is not the only place human rights are going backward).
1)OBVIOUSLY a person dose not deserved to be fired for speaking ones mind in Canada. Anyone! Not even misguided racist hate mongering fools. (many of the people in this email qualify)
2)If Hindi's wish to petition the government to be recognized as a nation, thats there right. The same rights many died to defend.
3)Adding more official nations to a united Canada, makes the nation stronger as well as reducing any other nation in Canada's ability to act unilaterally.

the feeling in this email resonated with racism, please ask your self before you forward such, if its possible that what your feeling is a fear of loss of the Anglo-Saxon's dominate position. Or is it a genuine problem to be fixed?
Yes we need to petition to have this mans job reinstated, but lets do it with out becoming misguided racist hate mongering fools.


On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Lainie S wrote:
> This is the first time I have forwarded a racially specific complaint. but I
> DO agree--enough is enough.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: manof lamancha
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> what do you think?
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> I agree 1000%. I find it interesting and very aggravating that these people
> do everything they can to get to Canada and then spend the rest of their
> time trying to change Canada into their old country. If you don't like
> Canada the way it is GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
> Why did you come here to begin with. You want freedom of religion, freedom
> to speak in your native tongue, well so do I and I was born here. My family
> has served to protect the rights we enjoy, the same rights that you have
> come to Canada to take advantage of. What have you done to deserve the right
> to force your wants on me. You claim racism against you. If we were racist
> against you we would NOT have let you in to Canada. If you want a national
> anthem sung in your native tongue GO BACK TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME FROM AND
> SING THE ONE WRITTEN IN YOUR NATURAL TONGUE AND LEAVE OURS ALONE.
> One more thing.
> It is this kind of thing that really should show us true Canadians that
> maybe we should quit being so complacent and "nice " to everyone else in the
> world and start to stand up for our rights. Quit allowing others to
> constantly run over us like door mats and stand up for what we believe in.
> "I am Canadian" is more than just a beer add. Try being as patriotic about
> the rights that our soldiers died for as you are about your brand of beer,
> kind of vehicle you drive, or the coffee you drink and maybe we wont have to
> put up with this crap.
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> I AM CANADIAN
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> I agree with this piece totally! My grandfather died at Vimy; my uncle, an
> RCAF flight officer, died for his country, so that we could sing with pride,
> "OH CANADA". Did they sing China's national anthem in Hindi at the summer
> olympics. Don't think so! And, will this be allowed when Great Britain
> hosts the Olympics? Don't think so!
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> I know this has been around many many times so it just goes to show everyone
> we do all feel the same way.
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> Please read and tell me what you think!!!
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> You SHOULD be concerned.
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> Our National Anthem - at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics
> Please read and forward to as many Canadians you can think of – thank you
> WE ARE PROUD CANADIANS
>
> Bruce Allen is on the 2010 Vancouver Olympic Committee and new Canadians
> (specifically Hindi's/Indian's) want him fired for his recent comments
> outlined below:
> I am sorry, but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in
> Hindi - enough is enough.
> Nowhere or at no other time in our Nation's history, did they sing it in
> Italian, Japanese, Polish,
> Irish (Celtic), German, Portuguese, Greek, or any other language because
> of immigration.
> It was written in English, adapted into French, and should be sung word
> for word the way it was written.
>
> The news broadcasts even gave the Hindi version translation - which was
> not even close to our National Anthem. I am not the least bit sorry if
> this offends ANYONE, this is MY COUNTRY; My Grand Dad served in the
> military, other family members also served, as well as my wife & I served a
> combined total of 56 years between us. We made many sacrifices for our
> country and do not feel we should feel obligated to allow invited people
> we've welcomed with open arms to influence & change our society to better
> resemble the one they chose to leave to come here!!! - IF YOU AGREE ABOUT
> THIS GREAT COUNTRY, SPEAK UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
> -- please pass this along .
> I am not against immigration. In fact I believe we need more, my ancestors
> were immigrants -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; a
> place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the Rules AND
> LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and LONG
> LIVE CANADA!'
>
> It's time we all get behind Bruce Allen, and scrap this Political
> Correctness crap. His comments were anything but racist, however, there are
> far too many overly sensitive 'New Canadians' that are attempting to
> change everything we hold dear.
>
> ARE you PART OF THE PROBLEM ??? Think about this: If you don't want to
> forward this for fear of offending someone, will we still be the Country
> of Choice and Still be CANADA if we continue to make the changes forced on
> us by the people from other countries who have come to live in CANADA
> because it is the Country of Choice??????
>
> Think about it!
>
> IMMIGRANTS, NOT CANADIAN'S, MUST ADAPT.
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> It's Time for CANADIANS to speak up.. If you agree ? Pass this along; if
> you don't agree?
> Delete it and reap what you sew because of your complacency!
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Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign - John Stuart Mill

Really about me October-ish edition

Lets see what can a student who does nothing tell you about?

I could go off on the usa 'lection, or Canada's. But unsolicited political rants arn't my style.(YA RIGHT!!, just don't feel like it, I'm a little politicked out right now.)



Now we do know how I love to brag. To be fair we all do. Sit back and count many “I me my” sentences you and your friends use in a regular conversation. It'll show you how surprisingly ego-centric we all are. Then quickly get over it. After all sharing your inner reality with others is more fulfilling than endlessly droning on about the weather. Which brings me back to my point. The other down side about bragging about the gorgeous weather, (and this city is BeauTIFUL in the fall,) is its not really about me. It doesn't really dig at anyone, and thats another part of bragging, its to get that dig in to someone. Like yay, I moved to a place after absolutely no consideration of the weather, But YAY ME, its nice... .... ... see what I mean, not worth bragging about. in fact id delete all of that if it wasn't for the fact I'm a painfully slow typer and i cant bare to see 4 hours of my work just disappear.


Maybe I should tell you about the fights I'm having with my teachers. But none have come to an interesting crescendo yet. There was the let down of my Philosophy teacher. OK quick back ground; Utilitarians take the view that all moral decisions ought to be chosen by what ever will cause the most happiness. Well my prof goes on to explain that if every one just wants to make every one else happy, and the only way to make others happy is to give them something they want, then you can only make them happy by ruthlessly pursuing what ever your heart desires. therefore negating everyone else's happiness. NOW, I'm ok with people having OBVIOUSLY wrong ideas about the nature of love, life and the world. some of my friends and family fall in to this crowed, (come on try to figure out who I'm talking about, its the new funner game!) and it doesn't alter my feelings toward them at all. But they are not in a position to force me to regurgitate their falsehoods. In fact as soon as this pile of fly attractant had fallen from his mouth, my prof ended class. the next Philosophy class was the test. Grinding my teeth I carved this stupidity in to the test paper.
With my class schedule i have phil. on Tuesdays and Thursdays only. so it was an entire week later that i was able to make my case. I sat through the lecture waiting for my chance to ask questions. It was a long class. A really really really long class. But finally it was question time so i asked why a smart person wouldn't develop a secondary goal, thus giving others something they can give you to make you happy. which would make them happy, which would fulfil the goal of making others happy. Thus making his argument against utilitarianism null and void! VOID I tell ya, VOID!!! Boo-ya! Now he was going to tell me that he was no longer going to teach these young impressionable minds lies, and the world was going to be just a bit better of a place.!!! With no voice inflection at all he said, "That might work.". he hadn't even finished saying might and he was pointing at another student prompting for the next question.
In a word; Deflated.

Or i could go on about how I'm soooooo NOT looking forward to flying back to Alberta for Christmas. As it turns out I'm not a good passenger in a plane. At least in a car I can pump the imaginary brake peddle on the passenger side. But in a plane, not only do they not have brake peddles, (I think the peddles control wing flaps... but I don't really know how the controls work, which means my imaginary ones are useless to me... more useless than... well any way), you can't even see the driver. Is he distracted, drowsy, was he taught faulty logic in school...?
My mom has told many about how how inner ear doesn't work for balance. Mine on the other hand is amazing! I can tell every pitch and turn of the plane!, which conflicts with what my eyes see, a 4 inch lcd screen that only shows the dumbest of reality tv. Come to think of it now I'm not so sure what was causing my nausea.
but if I went on about that people might think that I'm not looking forward to seeing them. which just simply isn't true.

so maybe i could just give some useless facts, like how my spell checker has a problem with lowercase "tv" and "ok", but is completely un-bothered by "funner". Really! it did at least stand up against "funnerest" and "gooder". Perhaps the battle for grammar, is akin to the battle to end crappy pop tunes on the radio; unattainable. Or at least less worthy of our effort than other more compelling crusades.
Well now if you find yourself with a little bit of free activist energy, and are unsure of what to do about it. Might I suggest you pick up a copy of Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine".
The last hundred pages are just her sources and the like so don't be deterred by the size of the book. If your jaw doesn't drop at least once in amazement while reading it...(trying to think of a suitable finish to that statement. One that can span the gambit from Granni to Bri, and be relevant...).
Any way as you can see i have nothing to write about and am feeling distant from my audience. In short a complete case of writers block. so no real "all about me October-ish edition". Just a note to say i miss most of you. Ill get around to missing the rest of you later this week.(planning your time well is the only way to get through school).


As per usual if your reading this somewhere other than your e-mail and want me to include you in my mailing list, (Ohh listen to me 'mailing list' and all i may have a problem with being pretentious, you think so?) just e-mail me at

livesin@gmail.com

or if i'm sending it to multiple of your email addys tell me which one you actually read.
Or just email me and tell me about your life and such. all i ever find in my inbox are adds for pills to cure problems i don't think i have.





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Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign - John Stuart Mill